Why would a bank employee hand money to a "robber" who is unarmed but for a note announcing the holdup?

I would have fallen about laughing, and then called for the security guards to haul this dolt away.

Seems like a bank these days would have some of those special packs that blow up when someone opens the stolen money and covers them with a dye.

These are no longer our people and this is no longer our time. Pretty much the whole world has become sisified. I for one agree with you and appreciate your posts. But when you try to show what chivalry is to the masses, you waste your time...They have no frame of reference for it.

So the guy hands over a note that says, "this is a hold up". Whats wrong with handing him a note back that says, "you aren't doing a very good job. Go away". I would bet money that he would turn and walk out. But who knows, there are a lot of nuts out there.

Tell you what, guy ---if you can stop calling me names for just a moment, we'll compromise:

If it's you who's being robbed, I'll just turn my back and walk away. I won't do a thing to help you. I promise.

That way you can throw both hands into the air and surrender, just like your leaders say you're supposed to, with no interference.

Won't that be nice!

Have a nice evening.

Okay, I'm an ill-informed boob who yells at clouds.

How does it feel to be a nice white fluffy cloud?

In all fairness, it must have looked to you as if that was all I was doing ---impugning Rettch's record. What I guess you don't know is that he's been impugning mine, mocking me, belittling me, calling me every name he could think of, for a very long time.

I'll freely admit I don't try to debate with him anymore, and haven't in quite some time. There is just simply no point to it. He pops up out of nowhere every few days, repeats everything he ever heard me say that he disagrees with, calls me "wingnut" a couple dozen more times, and that's it. If you want to tell me it's a mistake to sink to his level, just chalk it up to frustration.

But ---on to the subject itself. You're absolutely right, that's what banks tell they're employees to do. And for the very reasons you cite. Valid reasons, too, as far as they go.

But I don't work for a bank, and certainly don't own one, so my point of view is a bit different. For one thing, I'm not a 20 year old teller with his whole life in front of him. I'm a worn out old guy in a wheelchair who's already done everything in life he had a mind to do ---including a stint in the Service during a war.

So no, I won't give a robber anything, whether he's armed or not. I'll make him take it, and if someone has to get hurt, I'm going to do my best to see that it's him, not me.

Does that make me "Lightning", or "Bill Badass"? I guess you think so, but I'm going to tell you I don't. I think it makes me determined not to let a lowlife thief buy his drugs with my money.

You'll notice I didn't call you any names or yell at you this round. I'm willing to disagree with you without justifying it by trying to make you out as less a man than I am.

If you return the favor, fine. If you don't, then you just don't, that's all. In that case maybe you and old "Wrettch" can compare notes so you can call me different names.

You said, "You'll notice I didn't call you any names or yell at you this round. I'm willing to disagree with you without justifying it by trying to make you out as less a man than I am."

Yet when I look at your earlier post you said, "But isn't it amazing the number of nasty things the supposedly compassionate Liberal "Whargarbler" thought of to launch at me? He's a nasty piece of work, for sure and for certain."

You're a hypocrite! I usually don't even bother to read the posts from the <10 people who use the Lubbock Online comment section to argue with one another to see who can "outwit" one another, but you mostly end up sounding like bickering children.

stretching it....

I do it for a reason...only occassionally...

Are you denying that he did call me all the hideous things he could think of in his very first post that adressed me?

Or are you saying that he had the right to call me names but that I did not have the right to retaliate in kind?

Or are you denying that I did refrain from calling him names in the "round" in which I said that?

People whose ideas cannot prevail in a forum of ideas will try to destroy personally, those they cannot win against. That's just the way it is, in a basically anonymous board. I probably should have just let him rave, not hit back on his level, but that's water under the bridge now.

Edited to add:

You're right ---We sound just like bickering children. I'm not proud of it, but there's no point in dehying it, either.

Sorry old bean, all I can see is your subject line. "Ignore List", you know.

Sorry Lilpitbull, but they're not going to win as long as they depend on ad hominem attacks and name-calling, never noticing that they're arguments are the ones which really are drivel.

I've had three emails about this today, two to my personal address and one through the message system, all of them attaboys, all of them telling me to keep right on, all indicating that Wrettch has pretty much made a fool of himself in this thread and the other in which we quarreled. That's good enough for me.

No, I've not "done it all" ---nowhere near. I never claimed anything like that. But I've done the things I say I've done, and anyone who claims I haven't is just a straight hundred-proof liar. Anyone who attacks me by telling such a lie, rather than arguing the subject honestly, is pathetic and desperate.

He whose ideas are not good enough to win, resorts to the attempt to destroy me on a personal level. He has lost already.

of your many careers, when were you a bank teller or bank security guard? - after all, that is the crux of your argument. That you know better than bank personnel:

"Why would a bank employee hand money to a "robber" who is unarmed but for a note announcing the holdup?

I would have fallen about laughing, and then called for the security guards to haul this dolt away."

Ohhhh...let me guess, You don't have any experience in any of these careers. You don't know what their instructions are, under these circumstances. In other words, you're just opening your mouth to sound big.

Thanks for the clarification.

First, most banks and retail establishments tell their employees to do what the robber says and give them the money and do not resist. Failing to follow those instructions will get a employee fired.

Second, I personally would not risk my life or the life of an innocent bystander testing a robber to see if he as a weapon. He just might pull it out and start shooting to prove he has a gun or takes a knife and slashes someone close to him. There is not enough money in the world to get hurt or die over especially when it is insured.

An employee that resists and causes some customer to get hurt can probably expect to get sued along with their employer.

The advice I always gave people was do as they say while getting a good description of them as possible especially any special marks, scars, or tattoos, but do not be obvious about it. Fancy rings or watches are good identifiers also.

No one is going to get in the last word on you and most definitely will not be allowed to call you wrong on any subject. And for the second time on this forum, the word theyre is a contraction meaning ' They are'. The word you want is 'their', that shows ownership. I think you irk most people here because you come across as a know-it-all. Just saying. good day matey.

Ah, there you are! With five or six other Liberals attacking, you are finally brave enough to come oput of your burrow!

I recommend you reread all my posts. I explained all of that already. More than this, I do not owe you.

You may now crawl away once more.

No, no liberal is ever going ot get the last word, because I simply don't owe you that. When you're wrong, I'm going to tell you so, to your face.

And yes, I realize I'm a bad typist.

I irk you Leftist individuals for one reason ---I refuse to back up for any of you, not one inch.

I respect your opinion, even though you disagreed with me, because of the way in which you expressed it. REspect engenders respect in return.

On the other hand, I have no respect for these Liberals who keep attacking as though I had no right to any opinion contrary to theirs.

As I said before, i would risk my life to resist a thief, because my personal situation is different. I understand why a 20 year old bank teller, or the employer of a 20 year old bank teller, would choose a different course.

Have a good evening, my friend!

Oh yes you do...

I simply express my opinions, an action to which I am as entitled as anyone.

Then half a dozen Liberals jump in with personal, ad hominem attacks, because you absolutely hate anyone who doesn't immediately bow down to your oh-so-superior Liberal intellect.

It seems to me I'm the one who gets bullied, every time. You hope you can bully me completely off this site.

It will never happen.

In regards your statement that "no one gets the last word with me", and my reply to it... Actually there is a way for you or any other poster to get the last word with me. Here it is, though I doubt any of you will ever try it: Just skip the instant personal attacks w/ or w/o name calling, and say something along these lines "I'm sorry, Adunn, but I disagree with you." Word it any way you like ---respect will always be repaid by respect. Do that, and you won't hear another word from me on that subject, on that thread. Other posters may, but you won't. The most I might say is "Fair enough."