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Democratic leaders struggle when it comes to Rep. Anthony Weiner's future

Posted: June 6, 2011 - 10:59pm

WASHINGTON — So far, House Democratic leaders haven't publicly demanded Rep. Anthony Weiner resign after admitting he sent suggestive photos of himself in his underwear via Twitter and then lied about it to everyone within earshot. But they've made it clear they'd appreciate it if he'd go away. And soon.

In statements within an hour of Weiner's stunning admission on Monday, not a single Democrat volunteered support for the man long mentioned as a possible future mayor of New York. And notably, none chose to comment on his defiant vow: "I am not resigning."

Rep. Nancy Pelosi, the party leader, said she was "disappointed and saddened." She and other Democrats called for an ethics committee investigation to determine whether Weiner had broken any House rules.

Other Democrats said they agreed.

Purely in political terms, violating House rules would be the least of the woes Weiner has inflicted on his party, currently trying to make the case that Republican policies fall harshly on female voters.

By his own admission, he behaved badly toward women, describing a series of sexually-infused exchanges via Twitter over the past three years.

"I have engaged in several inappropriate conversations conducted over Twitter, Facebook, email and occasionally on the phone with women I had met online," he said at his news conference in New York.

"I've exchanged messages and photos of an explicit nature with about six women over the last three years," he added, although he quickly added he had not met any of the women or "had physical relationships at any time."

He apologized repeatedly and profusely to his wife, who was not in attendance.

Men behaving badly toward women hardly counts as news in the Capitol.

Sen. John Ensign, R-Nev., resigned a few weeks ago to avoid having to testify under oath before the Senate ethics committee about a tangled affair. Among other findings, the panel reported he had once asked his mistress to marry him in a proposal made while the two were attending a National Prayer Breakfast.

But on health care and many other issues, Democrats are busy trying to build a case that women should turn Republicans out of office at the next election. Fitting Weiner's suggestive photos of himself, and his sexually-charged banter, into that theme is something they presumably would like to avoid.

The immediate precedent for Weiner's behavior in the House concerns former Rep. Chris Lee, a Republican who resigned in February after shirtless photos he sent to a woman he had met on Craigslist were published online.

Lee was gone virtually before his transgression became known publicly, shown the door by the Republican leadership.

Republicans have been careful to avoid injecting themselves into Weiner's predicament, preferring to let Democrats stew in it themselves. Eventually, the question of a double standard is all but certain to be suggested by GOP officials, if not by others.

Weiner's response to a question along those lines showed how difficult an answer might be. "Well, I don't want to get into anyone else's situation, but I can tell you about mine. And it's one that I — that I regret, that didn't have to do with my government service per se, and had to do with a personal weakness."

Nor are fellow Democrats in Congress likely to take it well that Weiner lied to them, as well as to his wife and the public.

Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., defended Weiner a week ago, based on the congressman's assurances that he had not been involved in the photo sent via Twitter.

A few hours after Weiner's news conference, Schumer said in a statement that Weiner "remains a talented and committed public servant, and I pray he and his family can get through these difficult times."

Schumer did not say whether Weiner should remain in Congress. But his spokesman, Brian Fallon, said the senator thinks "that should be up to his constituents to decide."

However much lying may be invoked as a betrayal of trust, it also raises questions about what other damaging information may not yet be known.

Weiner was asked about Andrew Breitbart, a conservative who had materialized before the news conference and implied he had an X-rated photo of the congressman.

"Can you say that is not true?" Weiner was asked.

"No, I cannot," he said.

 

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@adunn

"except that you don't like Conservatives in general, and me in particular. Have you ever passed a cheerful day in your life? "

Correct, Correct again and Yes.....many times a day as a matter of fact. Not that your miserable carcass even understands the meaning in any shape of the imagination. Funny, how you pick which of my comments you decide to troll. I noticed one subject today you totally avoided. Wonder why?

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You asked ...

We broke the story about the FBI documents being unsealed almost two weeks back. We saw the information about Leonard. At the time we decided to not do anything about it for a couple of reasons. The main point of this story is if the city is owed millions from its former insurance carrier. The stuff about the alleged porn was a surprise to us. He has not been charged. And why would the feds wait a number of years on this if they thought it was that egregious? So we held off on including that in the story. If he's charged, we'll obviously do a story. And if anyone thinks we're doing this to protect John Leonard, we're not. I don't think John's real fond of us anyway. BTW, did you ask any of the other local media why they did not do anything with this for a number of days? Thanks, Terry

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Terry

Thank you for commenting. I wonder about the automatic process of deleting comments without human review when anyone posts a complaint.

Can you describe this process to the blog?

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AJ story on open records

Thank you for your reply.

AJ is my primary news source for local news, so I didn't catch that other local media didn't run the story. Leonard's computer pornography needs to be addressed regardless of when it happened. He's still out there doing whatever he did before, IMO.

Copied from other thread:

There are so many elements to this entire situation, and I hope the public can get the facts, as this does involve taxpayer money, and as Dr. Scioli commented, "they forgot to talk to the people who the contracts were made with, namely our local health care facility."

Someone, somewhere has some explaining to do....

http://lubbockonline.com/local-news/2011-05-27/warrant-city-lubbock-records-opened#comment-173761

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partisan

I can't believe folks are turning this into a partisan issue. Power corrupts. The only issue I see is Weiner got caught doing something politicians have done for years. Sure Grover Cleveland and Warren Harding didn't have Twitter accounts; but that didn't stop them from impregnating women they were not married to during their presidencies. FDR, Eisenhower, JFK, they all had mistresses. I am not saying infidelity is right. I am simply saying that in today's social networking/sensationalized media world, these issues get overblown. This is an issue between Weiner and his family and his constituents. It contributes nothing to the real issues we are dealing with other than a stupid distraction.......Can you imagine what our media would have done to King David, a "man after God's own heart," given his indiscretions?

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Jezbuzz

This is why we want the attorney general to release the audit report done on the city-insurance issue. Are the people of Lubbock owed millions of dollars? I think we all want to know.

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JAT

I don't "troll" anybody ---unless you make the definition of "troll" so broad that it includes everyone including you.

Your comments seem generally pretty meaningless, not much more than anonymous invective. If I failed to reply to one of them, it was probably either particularly meaningless, or I just didn't care.

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@Hub City Progressive

Your last post contains the greatest concentration of common sense I have yet heard on the Weiner fiasco, particularly your final reference to the media and King David.

I suppose David's affair with Bathsheba was the original political sex scandal ---and as I remember, God so forgave them as to bring forth the line of Solomon, through the Carpenter Himself, from their union.

Perhaps after all, we ought all back off and let the processes which exist for dealing with "conduct unbecoming a member of Congress" take their due course.

Well struck, Sir!

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@Terry Greenberg

Indeed we do want to know about all those millions--particularly in a time of universal budgetary shortfalls. Force the public release of that audit in full, and the AJ will have fulfilled the best tradition of journalism.

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re: John Leonard

It still bothers me (and it should bother Lubbock voters) that it has taken so long to report the audit. Why is there no more talk about John Leonard and pornography?

These perverts don't change their spots - they are porn addicts. I may have been a personal computer, but did he do this on city time - the time stamp on the pictures of the 4-6 year-old girls will tell when he downloaded the pictures. He has yet to respond to the TV stations that have called him.

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John Leonard

Does anyone know when the insurance fraud will be resolved, or at least the records released?

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@Jezbuzz

It bothers me too.

It has taken far too long. If we were ever to have been told the truth, it would have been done long ago.

This mess is a very fine example of why I have so little respect for our City Council.

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Thank you, adunn

I guess silence is golden. I appreciate Mr. Greenberg's response to me when I questioned why the AJ hadn't carried the Leonard story like KCBD.

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It amazes me how the media

It amazes me how the media can run with a story even when the so-called facts are nothing more than hearsay and it won't touch a story even when there is overwhelming evidence to support the allegations/charges. It all boils down to status and race. If you're well connected, you can literally get away with murder in this town. And if you retain a well-connected attorney, the same is true.

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@7Mulas

Race you say?

Uncalled for accusation, I say.

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Doc,It's the lies he told

Doc,

It's the lies he told to try to cover it up. What else has he lied about and what else is he lying about? That doesn't bother you at all? You have proved my point.

Clinton lied under oath and he didn't lose his job. Rangel lied on his tax returns and he didn't lose his seat. Weiner lied about his namesake and he will not lose his job unless he gets voted out, which will hopefully happen.

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btx.....We do live in a

btx.....We do live in a developed country and we do have healthcare. We ALL had healthcare whenever we wanted it before obama flubbed it all up. Now we will pay more to have health INSURANCE so that we can have less healthcare than what we had before the law was passed.

You've spouted all along that nobody will pay any more out of pocket (insurance, taxes, etc.) with this healthcare legislation. That's NOT TRUE, PERIOD!

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@Sbark

I don't know about Weiner keeping his job, not much longer anyway. There are more Dems coming out with the idea that he ought resign, today.

If he loses all support within his party, he'll have to go ---unless he cares more about staying in power than what's in the best interest of his constituents. I'm not quite ready to say that yet, not even about him.

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sbark1

I note that you restrict your list of misdeeds to Democrats...as though Republicans occupy some sort of moral high ground, which they emphatically don't.

Clinton was impeached by the House and tried by the Senate, as the law provides for. The fact that he wasn't convicted by the Senate...well, there ain't a thing we can do about that, is there? Too bad. Richard Nixon, on the other hand, resigned to avoid being impeached. Nothing happened to him either; in fact, he was pardoned by Gerald Ford (which in turn cost Ford the '76 election and gave us four years of Jimmy Carter). His "punishment" was to move to New Jersey and write a bunch of books that not too many people read.

Speaking of liars...get your ticket now. A famous liar is coming to speak in Lubbock real soon. Speaking of people who embarrass their constituents with their sexual escapades, David Vitter is still in office, too, or was the last time I checked.

Liars...amnesiacs....sexual misconduct. Arrogant behavior patterns such as this often go with the job of elected official, no matter which party label he chooses. How sad that apparently your moral outrage is only reserved for those on one side of the aisle.

Got a good book for you-- it's called The White House: A Dark History. It's got misbehavior and malfeasance going clear back to George freakin' Washington. I recommend it highly. To use a term I'm sure you'll understand, it's fair and balanced. You really need to lose this attitude/pose of yours that only "liberal extremist" Democrats abuse the public trust. Live in the real world.

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sbark

Between True Grit and Game 4 I didn't have time to check back yesterday. In answer to your question, I guess I'm not a liberal in any sense of the word as you describe it. You are correct that we consider people, things, and places more "liberal" the weirder and wilder they get, and I personally don't allow my oldest daughter to watch anything that isn't animated on the Children's Softcore Porn Network (aka the Disney channel). I don't know if it's liberal or not to believe that people should have the right to act like freaks if they want to, as long as nobody's getting harmed by it, as far as the government is concerned anyway. I guess it's probably more libertarian than anything else- I think people ought to be able to act like raging liberals or crusty conservatives socially as much as they want to, again, as long as nobody's harmed by it. The morality of liberalism or conservatism is of no consequence as far as the government should be concerned. The government exists just to provide enough safety and structure for people make decisions on their own or with the church or belief of their choice regarding morals.

Concerning the Weiner, I personally don't care whether he's junk-mailing other consenting adults in the least. He ought to lose his job (and he will) because he's a Congressman and he lied about it publicly. Sorry Clinton didn't lose his job- the Constitution is pretty clear about what it takes for a president to be removed from office, and it does have the irritating ability to get in the way of what might be the best thing as opposed to the lawful thing. The vote was as partisan as it would have been had it been a Republican in the White House doing the same thing. I do remember being happy that Charlie Stenholm wasn't worried about going against his party in the House vote; too bad he had the wrong initial after his name when he ran against the guy who thinks pro-lifers are baby killers.

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Greenberg

"Karen Brehm is the associate editor and usually handles moderation. I sub for her when she's on vacation and I'm more hands off than she is."

I have not found this to be the case in the past, the Amigos story notwithstanding.

But I do respect that you'll at least explain why you felt you had to censor posts for various reasons.

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It's a pity, though....

....I was looking forward to reading some of those comments which were deleted for our own good.

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@Doc

"Clinton was impeached by the House and tried by the Senate, as the law provides for."

Not hardly.

W Jefferson Clinton was impeached yes ---for very good reasons.

The so-called "trial" in the Senate was a complete sham, with only limited evidence allowed to be presented, and with no witnesses allowed to be called.

It had been decided ahead of time by Democrats and Republicans alike that he was not going to be removed from office under any circumstances, and the "trial" reflected that.

Proper action, or gross miscarriage of justice?

It depends on whom you ask.

"It depends on what the definition of the word "is" is." - W Jefferson Clinton"

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Doc......Never said

Doc......Never said Republicans don't lie and don't cheat and those that do should be hung up and never allowed to see the light of the Chambers of Congress again. It's too bad that the democrats don't hold their elected officials to the same standards. I recall when the impeachment hearings were going on about Clinton, I told my wife that if Clinton were a Republican, I'd want him gone and in jail and if any Republican did the same as Clinton....I'd want them gone and in jail. Not so with the democrats. He's a hero to them because he lied under oath and got away with it. Same with Weiner and same with Rangel and all of the other democrats that got caught not paying their taxes.

If you think I'm a double-standard guy like most of the liberals are, you need to read all of my comments again.

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As calls mount for

As calls mount for resignation, Weiner's wife's pregnancy reported

New York Times: Huma Abedin, 35, is in the early stages of pregnancy

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THROW HIM UNDER THE BUS

Throw him under the bus. Thats what the Republicans and Democrats do. Anybody remembers how the Republicans treated Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez and Army Lieutenant General Ricardo Sanchez.

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Conduct Unbecoming a member

Conduct Unbecoming a member of Congress seems to have been demonstrated beyond reasonable doubt.

Get him out of here.

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Well, then.

Looks like I was right about the prudes.

Sometimes being right is no fun at all.

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Oh Come On Doc!

To satisfy your quest to "end prudery" I guess nothing at all should be taboo.

I take it you think the Weiner should be allowed to just go on as if nothing had happened, as if his grotesquery had not disgraced the entire Congress?

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adunn

How I feel that Weinergate should be dealt with is expressed elsewhere in these comments. The prudes I refer to are the A/J's editorial staff, who seem to have no trouble printing a story about sexual misconduct, but take issue with someone (me) having a little fun with it.

It's like this:

A little way up the page, you said something about "conduct unbecoming a member of Congress." I merely posted that I found it ironic that a Congressman's member was involved, even though there was no actual congress involved on the part of the Congressman. I also tucked in a George Carlin quote which "someone" apparently thought was a tad too PG-13 for these comments. Wouldn't want the kids to read that stuff, would we now? They might be amused by certain comedic aspects of this particular "grotesquery."

All that stuff was either removed by the A/J or flagged by some other similarly humor-impaired individual who cannot even appreciate that lowest form of humor, the pun.

So you can relax...I'm not advocating the ruination of the youth of America. But the day's still young!

On the subject of taboos, I'm trying to think of any that are of any practical use, as opposed to those which merely tend to enforce behavior.

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